Unit 38 in Grizzly, Oregon, presents a challenge with a noticeable presence of road hunters during the rifle season, as several comments suggest that hunting deep in the wilderness could yield better results. For those pursuing elk, there is curiosity about the transition to drawing-only hunts, although specifics for elk and deer remain tentative. Hunters report seeing plenty of deer, particularly around private lands, hinting at good game activity in these areas. To optimize success, hunters recommend extensive pre-season scouting to find less accessible spots where wildlife is plentiful and road hunter pressure is low. Planning around the unit's unique challenges and opportunities will be key, as updated harvest data can help refine strategies.