Hunters in Area 39, Bates Creek, Wyoming, express concerns over optimistic draw odds, suggesting that actual odds appear to be lower than projected, especially when considering preference point and random draw pools. Clarifications provided indicate that odds might be better calculated by considering both these pools together, providing valuable insight for draw strategy. Confusion over rifle season dates highlights the importance of understanding specific permit types, with November's season being for whitetail deer only. Additionally, hunters seeking advice on preferred sections of the unit for whitetail hunting can rely on available mapping tools to assess access, with generally good access reported but potential for hunter pressure to vary by area.